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Old 09-24-2006, 10:08 AM   #1
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Situation: High call volume and high instate telephone rates

Problem: legal workaround sought to beat in-state rates

background:

state A: 9 cents/min
state B: 6 cents/min

national calls 3 cents/min (originated outside state)

most calls originate in state A. second most calls originate in state B.

CAN ONE HAVE A PHYSICAL NUMBER IN STATE B VERY CLOSE TO THE STATE BORDER OF "STATE A" AND RUN INTERNAL PHONELINES ACROSS THE STATES' BORDERS AND ACHIEVE THE LOWER RATES?

PLEASE DESCRIBE THE CONFIGURATION, AND IT IS POSSIBLE TO ONLY HAVE ONE LOCATION AND PAY A FEE TO YOUR "HELPFUL" NEIGHBOR.

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Old 09-24-2006, 03:44 PM   #2
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In the traditional telephone model, you would run a T-1 or T-3 line between your two offices and have all outbound calls originate from the least expensive office. This would require a PBX at the remote office.

In the VoIP telephone model, you would build a VPN between the two offices and route the calls over the Internet. This would require an IP PBX at the remote office.

The best answer really depends upon sizing. How many phones will you have in each location?
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:27 PM   #3
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so to really compare the traditional telephone model, I would have to compare call volumes level to see where I would break even for the cost of having a PBX at the remote location? BTW 99% of calls are inbound tollfree if that helps.
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Old 09-28-2006, 06:35 PM   #4
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Exactly.

How are you currently balancing the inbound calls between the two offices?
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Old 11-20-2006, 03:44 PM   #5
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I am not an expert on pbx, but if you originate a call from the central office in state A which has an area code of lets say 123 and you call a central office in state B which has an area code of 345, thats a long distance call. I don't care if the two central offices are close enough to throw rocks at each other. So if the rate at office A is 5 cents a minute and you call office B, it's 5 cents a minute. If the rate at office B is 10 cents a minute, and you call office A, it's 10 cents a minute. rates don't cross area codes in other states.
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That's true for normal toll calls, but they could route their calls on private circuits from one state to the next and then have those calls "originate" from the less expensive state.
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Who would "they" be? I can't imagine the phone company allowing calls to be routed over their copper to the cheapest carrier.
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:36 PM   #8
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They would be the individual company.

Here's an old-school example from the pre-VoIP days:
Acme Corporate has offices in Los Angeles and Reno.

Due to tarrifs, phone calls from Los Angeles are significantly more expensive than phone calls from Reno.

So, Acme Corporation purchases a leased line (such as a T-1 or T3) between their Los Angeles and Reno offices for a fixed monthly fee. They place their PBX in Reno and connect all of their office phones in Los Angeles to the PBX in Reno.

Then, every time an Acme Corporation employee in Los Angeles dials the phone -- the phone call is "originated" in Reno.
This is an old example. With VoIP and wireless WANs, the number of options expands exponentially.
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