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Old 05-07-2008, 07:27 PM   #1
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Dedicated Server

Hello. You know when you buy dedicated servers? Well basically they are in some sort of datacenter.

Is it possible to get the actual box myself and power it myself at home?

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Old 05-07-2008, 11:36 PM   #2
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HP and IBM sells that box, though. But I don't recommend it, it's pretty expensive TT.
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Do you mean run your own server at home? If so, my brother had his websites running on his home server for quite a while.

I Googled "home servers" and found this neat video about the HP EX470 MEDIASMART SERVER 500GB WINDOWS HOME SERVER more important than the server type it's a (short) description of the advantage of having a home server.

The cool thing too is Windows has it's own Home Server application which (I hear) is pretty easy to run. From this site there are several links to buying the HP Media Smart Server. But of course, there are a lot of different servers out there that you can run from your home!
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that is not for web server. That machine is only intended for media streaming and backup. Windows Home Server is an embedded version of Windows 2003 SBS with a lot of restriction. You couldn't install any server side script handlers or database programs, such as PHP, mySQL et cetera.

Get yourself a Sun server, one of fastest servers on earth xD~

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Ohh... I thought it was a web server... thanks for the clarifcation!

That Sun Fire is nearly $2,500 ... eeek! Sun products are good though.
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hell yeah, that kind of box is not that cheap though....thats why the web hosting company charges us BIG amount if we want to lease them.
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So what do think would would be a good home web server? I see some on Dell's website for like $400. I guess it would depend on just how much "power" you want to exert on the web!
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Well, as someone who works in the industry I will say, do not wast your money!
First and foremost, you do not have the correct connection to a network to run a server (web server) from your house. You need a large bandwidth pipe connection in order to do this, and your ISP (home internet service provider) will not allow you to even come close to taking up the required bandwidth connection required to connect to their network.

The type of servers you can run from home, as partially explained, are only media share stations, backup stations and low level file sharing. Meaning you could run a very small low traffic website from your house. Lyte could not run this forum from her house. The bandwidth would get used up in a week (give or take) and her ISP would shut her service off. (I know everyone thinks your high speed connection is unlimited, but its not, you can find many articles regarding this on google, and you can test your ISP yourself if you wish, they get pushy and some like comcast will turn your service off and not let you back on if you use too much bandwidth in one month.)

If you really want to own the server you site is on, you need to look into collocation. You can purchase a web server (a good one) for around a grand (duel xeon 2.8, 2gigs ram, 2x250GB drives, proper network cards, proper server casing, ect.) and then pay anywhere from $80-$200 to have it in a real datacenter, with proper connections, and of course, the bandwidth.

Collocation, means you are paying to rent the rack space in the center and the bandwidth, but that is all, this means if a memory stick or your drive goes bad, you have to buy one, ship it to them, and pay them an admin hour to replace it for you. Its about the price of a good quality VPS or reseller account [well, from the right company, you get what you pay for ].

A good colo center, is located here, they are located in Portland OR and area very decent center. We currently have 14 servers located in this center ourselves. We also have many in other centers, including LiquidWeb, G3Tech, and a few others, but those are more on the expensive side of it, ranging on the $200+ side.

But back to the original idea, running a web server from home. If you wanted to run your site from home, and it is a small, low traffic level site, and you do not plan on selling hosting, then you can use your own computer, if you are running linux. Any Red Hat distro (fedora, enterprise, centos, ect.) would be best, you do not want to use Ubuntu or any of the GUI distros.

I know many people who do this themselves actually, for family type websites and what not. And the best part is, you don't even need a server, just a regular cheap old PC. All you really need is an old PC with 128mb of ram, a 10gig hdd, a router, and a linux distro installed.

And if your a really brave soul, you can run it on your own computer (your main one) running windows using IIS, but this opens up such a huge security risk, and your putting all of your HDD out on the net, and your little firewall will not be enough to stop a real hacker from gaining access to your whole desktop. If you want to take that route, read this, and continue at your own risk! You should also read this.

If you want to try the linux way, the safer, smarter way , read this.

And I will leave you with the usual, google is your friend!

So in conclusion:
You can not run an actual web server from your house, you will not have the proper network connections, as you can not connect a real server to your modem. You will need to contact your ISP to see if you can even host a home site on an old pc, as they may not like you taking up so much bandwidth. If they will allow it, go bargain shopping or pull that old dinosaur out of the closet and download linux distro with auto installing L.A.M.P., and but a cheap router, and get reading! Or if you really want to own a real web server, go collocated!
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I am glad that you have all helped. I was just looking to see if you can have home servers. In the future I will be most definatly happy to have my own servers at home.

Anyone here ever wanted one at home?
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What if you had something like a T1 line and didn't go with usual ISP, like Comcast or Verizon.

I'm trying to remember more details of my brother's set up in California. Because I'm (fairly) certain he said he was hosting his website from his own server in the house. I recall a BIG black cabinet with four or five pieces of equipment locked in it. Hmm... I'm gonna have to call him and refresh my memory!
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