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Old 07-12-2006, 07:33 PM   #1
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installation problems!!

installation problems!!
i downloaded ubuntu 6.0 onto a cd and also debian 3.1r0-a using my toshiba laptop and tried installing them onto different hard drives to be used in my basestation pc as primary slave and secondary slave with xp home as primary master and cd/dvd drive as secondary master. what i do is disconnect all the drives except the one im downloading the os for to be installed into. after downloading the os's on the laptop, i burn them onto cd's and then install onto them onto the hard drives, with only one hard drive connected at a time. i've tried installing ubuntu 5 different times! when it's done all of its downloading of files and programs all it will do is let me get online using only the cd, it will not install on the hard drive. when ever i try to install it on the hard drive it goes thru the installation percentage amount showing how much of it is installed and it gets to 50% and stops! i let it sit for 2 hours one time and it never did anything after that. i had to shut down the pc and reboot.
NOW, i just downloaded and tried to install debian 3.1r0-a. it installed fine,BUT it's all in a text format!! no graphics!! why????
id love to have 3 different os's on 3 different hard drives in my computer to give me a choice of which one i want to go into when i start the pc or even when im using one of them, i can reboot and switch to another one. all of the linux os's are giving me very hard tries at getting the pc set up like that. i have an emachines amd athlon 64 3500+ CPU and 1024 Mb of ram. i downloaded the 64 bit linux os's and they wont install!!! whats WEIRD with emachines because when ever i try to download these linux os's using it, it does not give an option to download in a OSI file structure, only in a windows type of format. So, thats why i downloaded all of the linux os's to my toshiba laptop cd burner which is running xp home and they all downloaded in the OSI format using it with no problems!!. why?? i dont know, but they did. but,like i said earlier, the oses wont install onto any of the hard drives in my emachines computer which is my main basestation pc in my 4 pc linksys wireless network.
does anyone know what can be done to have these hard drives work on one computer? in an emachines???
is it at all possible to do??
thanks,Jim
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Old 07-13-2006, 04:40 AM   #2
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installation problems!!
i downloaded ubuntu 6.0 onto a cd and also debian 3.1r0-a using my toshiba laptop and tried installing them onto different hard drives to be used in my basestation pc as primary slave and secondary slave with xp home as primary master and cd/dvd drive as secondary master. what i do is disconnect all the drives except the one im downloading the os for to be installed into. after downloading the os's on the laptop, i burn them onto cd's and then install onto them onto the hard drives, with only one hard drive connected at a time. i've tried installing ubuntu 5 different times! when it's done all of its downloading of files and programs all it will do is let me get online using only the cd, it will not install on the hard drive. when ever i try to install it on the hard drive it goes thru the installation percentage amount showing how much of it is installed and it gets to 50% and stops! i let it sit for 2 hours one time and it never did anything after that. i had to shut down the pc and reboot.
I tried (reluctantly) to install Ubuntu for someone once, couldn't get it to install but I think I had similar problems, it stopped at one point, I just gave up and convinced him to let me put a decent distro on

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NOW, i just downloaded and tried to install debian 3.1r0-a. it installed fine,BUT it's all in a text format!! no graphics!! why????
Erm....because it's Linux...not Windows/Ubuntu :p, welcome to the Linux world. Seriously, if you're not comfortable with command lines and stuff I really wouldn't bother with Linux, especially if you want to start using software that doesn't come nicely packaged with your distro. Do you mean the installer was all in text? Or does it boot to the command line?

If it's the installer, well that'll just be how it does it, Linux tends not to show you hundreds of pages of pointless marketing information during setup begging you to buy something like Windows does.

If it's the OS booting into the command line, you could be booting into the wrong run level or you might not have installed the GUI part of the OS (you don't have to), did you install X-Windows and KDE/Gnome? I've never installed Debian so I don't know, but quite often with Linux distros if you select the "minimal install" option on the installation it will install it without a GUI, it's not the same as windows where a minimal install will just install it without the extra applications, because in Linux the GUI is an extra application.


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id love to have 3 different os's on 3 different hard drives in my computer to give me a choice of which one i want to go into when i start the pc or even when im using one of them, i can reboot and switch to another one. all of the linux os's are giving me very hard tries at getting the pc set up like that.
You need a boot manager like Grub or Lilo (included with most Linux distros)


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i have an emachines amd athlon 64 3500+ CPU and 1024 Mb of ram. i downloaded the 64 bit linux os's and they wont install!!! whats WEIRD with emachines because when ever i try to download these linux os's using it, it does not give an option to download in a OSI file structure, only in a windows type of format. So, thats why i downloaded all of the linux os's to my toshiba laptop cd burner which is running xp home and they all downloaded in the OSI format using it with no problems!!. why?? i dont know, but they did. but,like i said earlier, the oses wont install onto any of the hard drives in my emachines computer which is my main basestation pc in my 4 pc linksys wireless network.
What is emachines?
Most Linux distros come as iso images, they should work with cd burning software on any OS?


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does anyone know what can be done to have these hard drives work on one computer? in an emachines???
is it at all possible to do??
thanks,Jim
Hmmm i'm wondering, is emachines a virtual machine program? Like VMWare? I have various OS's installed on VMWare, I just install them like I would on a physical computer, never had any problems with it. But you probably wouldn't want to be running an OS like that, not with your system specs, you need to dual boot really, as I said, use one of the boot managers.



I've got a suggestion for you, try SuSE 10.0 or Fedora. They're certainly not "n00b distros" (like Ubuntu is) but they're not amazingly difficult for beginners either (like Debian probably is). SuSE especially, gives you the closest thing you'll get to an OS with some of the good points of Windows but without being too user friendly. Both also have good partitioning capabilities on setup and usually will configure Grub for you.
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