AMD or Intel?

Rob · 10-31-2005, 12:00 AM

Who is the best these days?
I know Intel was the one to go with up to about a year ago but I have been hearing good things about AMD these days.

AMD CPU's used to overheat alot, I know from experience.
Im keen to try one of the new chips but would love to hear some comments/experiences from anyone who has bought an AMD chip in the last 6 months or so

Bender · 10-31-2005, 12:08 AM

Im still an Intel man at heart.

All of my 3 PC's contain Intel CPU's, one is a celeron but it does an excellent job.

I guess AMD is not too bad, but deep down I just would not buy one

Will.Spencer · 10-31-2005, 01:36 AM

AMD CPU's have the edge moving forward because their HyperTransport bus is point-to-point, unlike the shared bus used by Intel.

Say good-bye to the FSB bottleneck!

Of course, this only affects dual-core and multi-processor systems. If your applications don't take advantage of parallel processing, they will most likely run faster on an Intel CPU.

Bender · 11-01-2005, 08:09 AM

Is that AMD's version of Hyper Threading?

Intel still has the edge.. they come out with these new technologies before anyone else

Is AMD still playing catch up games as far as CPU speeds go?

Will.Spencer · 11-02-2005, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bender

Is that AMD's version of Hyper Threading?

Hyper-threading is is a technique which enables a single CPU to act like multiple CPU's.

Hypertransport is a CPU to I/O and CPU to CPU bus. Hypertransport is an interface between CPU's and between CPU's and the rest of the computer.

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Originally Posted by Bender

Intel still has the edge.. they come out with these new technologies before anyone else

In many cases, yes. But note how AMD came out with AMD64 and Intel then cloned it at EM64T.

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Originally Posted by Bender

Is AMD still playing catch up games as far as CPU speeds go?

I believe that they have given up and are hoping to build CPU's that do more work at the same speeds.

Bender · 11-02-2005, 03:15 AM

Ok now I understand what Hypertransporti is. For some reason i thought they were just trying to copy Intel's Hyperthreading.

True about the AMD64. I was very impressed with the specs when that came out, I believe it was the first 64 bit CPU?
I still don't see a need for me to get one though, do you have one and if so do you notice a big difference over a normal CPU?

Will.Spencer · 11-02-2005, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bender

True about the AMD64. I was very impressed with the specs when that came out, I believe it was the first 64 bit CPU?

I don't know nearly as much as I would like about 64-bit chips.

ops:

MIPS released the first 64-bit CPU in 1991.

Intel shipped 64-bit Itanium CPU's in 2001.

AMD shipped 64-bit Opteron and Athlon processor lines in 2003.

Intel shipped 64-bit Pentium CPU's in 2004.

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Originally Posted by Bender

I still don't see a need for me to get one though, do you have one and if so do you notice a big difference over a normal CPU?

Not me.

I have a top-of-the-line AMD CPU in my desktop, but I spend 98% of my computing time on this Dell D800 laptop with the much slower 2Ghz Pentium-M.

My bottleneck is almost always memory. I need to upgrade to 2Gigs! :shock:

kidiotb · 11-17-2005, 07:35 AM

My friend has an AMD processor and he finds it totally outstanding except htat he cant play a few games on it. He also got a GEForce 3 graphics card which gives out some noise while playing games like San Andreas or for that matter running any full screen application.

Bender · 11-17-2005, 08:07 PM

Why wouldnt he be able to play some games on the AMD chip?
It should work BETTER than other chips one would think.

imported_krish · 11-30-2005, 05:01 AM

Even i heard about this. But not sure if its a rumour or something. But there might a chance that few games might be designed exclusively for Intel.

infinitomagazine · 12-04-2005, 09:41 PM

Im not a computer expert, but i have a computer with amd chip.
this computer works perfect is faster than my pentium 4. for example
i can use photoshop, msn mesenger, word, macromedia flash 8, windows media 10, yahoo messenger and other programs at same time with my amd.
my intel cpu isnt as good as amd. because i have problems when i open more than 3 programs like macromedia, photoshop and windows media

bear · 12-04-2005, 09:45 PM

Well I hate to tell you, but having an Intel CPU will not make your computer run like that.
Intel are notorious for making extremely capable CPU's.

It's the RAM causing those issues, not any AMD or Intel CPU.

suzeygal · 12-05-2005, 09:03 AM

I prefer Intel but that's a personal preference.

Susan

cmpolis · 12-07-2005, 12:05 AM

I used to go with Intel, but now it seems AMD is better, especially with their new Athlon64 X2 compared to the Intel Pentium D.

imported_Steve · 12-07-2005, 12:42 AM

I'm an Intel man

I had one bad experience with AMD overheating and that turned me off forever.

Also Intel are always coming out with new things first, AMD always just plays catch up games.

ibnuasad · 12-07-2005, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve

I'm an Intel man

I had one bad experience with AMD overheating and that turned me off forever.

Also Intel are always coming out with new things first, AMD always just plays catch up games.

Yes, I have a bad experience with AMD too.

I also agree that Intel is the one who comes out with the latest stuff. AMD is just there to play along and copying Intel's stuff.

But I also heard that AMD is for hardcore gamers. Is that true?

Fry · 12-08-2005, 05:17 PM

Intel is ahead but AMD isn't just there to copy.

Gamers argue for and against both brands. There is really no defining answer to this question, it is all based on opinion and also what other components are used in the system.

Many believe that HyperThreading puts Intel ahead of the game though.

Will.Spencer · 12-08-2005, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fry

Many believe that HyperThreading puts Intel ahead of the game though.

Or perhaps that HyperTransport puts AMD ahead. :lol:

cmpolis · 12-08-2005, 09:13 PM

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Bender · 12-08-2005, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Will.Spencer

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Originally Posted by Fry

Many believe that HyperThreading puts Intel ahead of the game though.

Or perhaps that HyperTransport puts AMD ahead. :lol:

An example of AMD playing catch up on Intel technologies!

Will.Spencer · 12-09-2005, 02:00 AM

Errr... umm... no... Intel still hasn't begun to catch up on HyperTransport.

And let's not forget Intel's cloning of AMD64 and calling it EM64T.

H Brando · 12-09-2005, 04:40 PM

I have been in the AMD camp for a long time now.

I know that C-Net or someone recently did a comparison of the AMD and Intel Dual-Cores and AMD completely obliterated Intel in their tests. It was a total rout.

I will see if I can still track down the comparison.

n3rdych1ck · 12-09-2005, 09:09 PM

I've heard that AMD is better for gaming graphincs but for regular use, Intel is the best

Bender · 12-11-2005, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by n3rdych1ck

I've heard that AMD is better for gaming graphincs but for regular use, Intel is the best

Well you heard wrong...

Thats a completely false and broad statement. Hundreds of tests would need to be carried out to prove that and even then there would be no definitive answer.