Choice of Motherboard

raju79 · 08-03-2006, 11:36 PM

Thanks to the HyperTransport technology developed by AMD, motherboards of their CPUs are at a level higher than than Intel motherboards. Intel motherboard still use the obsolete front-side bus (FSB) technology to provide a connection between the CPU and the RAM (memory) modules. In the AMD platform, the CPU has an integrated memory controller which directly accesses the memory modules. Hence, memory operations are not bottlenecked by the FSB. Also, motherboard chipsets for AMD processors are being made by many third-party vendors (like VIA, nVidia, and ATI) who add their own expertise and performance increments to the motherboards. Intel jealously guards the chipset market for their CPUs and hence all innovations have to come from Intel.

Thanks

limainfinita · 08-04-2006, 12:53 AM

Ok, when i was looking a CPU I asked about AMD and Pentium, and everybody told me: AMD had problems because refrigeration system is not good, AMD processor easily gets warm.
is true?

McDaddy · 08-04-2006, 01:03 AM

not unless you are overclocking. if you run the processor at a stock speen, air cooling from a good heatsync will be fine

cheapquality · 08-04-2006, 11:21 AM

All in all, i prefere AMD motherboards, Gigabyte, because its best in quality, But its only for third party processor, it doesn't support Intel processors

**Lyte** · 08-04-2006, 01:59 PM

I say again... what about Asus motherboards?! Have they lost their popularity?

McDaddy · 08-05-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cheapquality

All in all, i prefere AMD motherboards, Gigabyte, because its best in quality, But its only for third party processor, it doesn't support Intel processors

AMD is not 3rd party. they are completely differant than intel's. differant socket, speed,FSB, every thing. not in the least 3rd party. AMD had differant manufactures, but that is it, you can get AMD's that are Throughbread, barton, ect. but they are in no way second rate to intel. IMO they are better.

OulZac · 08-05-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyte

I say again... what about Asus motherboards?! Have they lost their popularity?

Asus is a good board maker still, but 70% of the boards they make these days are made for Intel chips, and intel has lost a huge market to the build it yourself gernerations. they also lost a huge market share to biostar, as they started producing great P4 boards. But when it comes to an AMD system, it seems gigabyte is the way to go.

and as McDaddy said, AMD is KING! forget about this new duo core from intel, it maybe the "best" on the market right now, but AMD will overcome that in no time, they have plans for a new generation of cpus layedout for early first quarter 2007. For quality and price, you can not beat an AMD right now.

firestorm · 08-06-2006, 08:03 AM

Intel is on the move too though. They are currently trying to eliminate the FSB issue and are coming out with fully buffered DIMMs and a new chipset. AMD is the way to go now, but Intel ain't far behind.

And Lyte, I am getting an ASUS board for my new comp. I use them in most of my comps and still doing good.

OulZac · 08-06-2006, 11:14 AM

nice, I just caught a peek a my first core 2 duo cpu, and NICE, the first Intel chip I have actaully wanted to purchase since the Pentium I.
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40GHz / 4MB Cache / 1066MHz FSB

these chips will start to rock gamers worlds, until AMD releases the 4x4!

sacx13 · 09-09-2006, 02:54 AM

For gameing you need a good good motherboard and a Good VIdeo Card. I play most games in full details (1024 x 768) and my processor is a Slot A Amd Duron 1700 +, 512 MB Ram. But I have a Nvidia 6600 ... So I don't need more processor power when I have a good video card

Regards

McDaddy · 09-10-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by raju79

Thanks to the HyperTransport technology developed by AMD, motherboards of their CPUs are at a level higher than than Intel motherboards. Intel motherboard still use the obsolete front-side bus (FSB) technology to provide a connection between the CPU and the RAM (memory) modules. In the AMD platform, the CPU has an integrated memory controller which directly accesses the memory modules. Hence, memory operations are not bottlenecked by the FSB. Also, motherboard chipsets for AMD processors are being made by many third-party vendors (like VIA, nVidia, and ATI) who add their own expertise and performance increments to the motherboards. Intel jealously guards the chipset market for their CPUs and hence all innovations have to come from Intel.

Thanks

just for a note. hyper transport, is not differant from a front side bus. it is the same thing, just a differant name. when refering to a front side bus such as intel processors, the FSB (front side bus) is 800 MHz. and the old AMD's used to have an 800 FSB. but when AMD came out with a bus speed of 1600 MHz and 2000 MHz, they did not want to call it a front side bus. instead they called it hyper transport. it is in all essance the same thing. just a lot faster.

the bottle neck in most systems is caused by the fsb. a processor may be able to runn at 3 GHz, but if the information can only get in to the processor to be processed at 800 MHz. then you can see where the is a big slow down is. whas AMD did was worry less about processor speed and more about the bottle neck, and intorduced hyper transport. they took a 2 GHz processor and made a FSB of 2000 MHz which is equal to 2 GHz. so you can think of it as the information free flows through the processor, and you guessed it, next to no bottle neck. this is what apple has been doing for years. theig systems such as the G5 have no bottle necks to campre with the FSB of a PC. that is why mac's have slower processing speeds, but are so much faster than pc's.

Will.Spencer · 10-24-2006, 04:51 PM

HyperTransport is quite a bit more than a simple Front Side Bus.

I am not just talking about moving the memory controller into the CPU, which elimates the bottleneck that you mentioned.

HyperTransport is a general purpose CPU to I/O and CPU to CPU bus design which uses a packet-based protocol to maximize flexibility while minimizing the number of data paths required..

HyperTransport is to FSB what TCP/IP is to a null modem cable.

McDaddy · 11-07-2006, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will.Spencer

HyperTransport is quite a bit more than a simple Front Side Bus.

I am not just talking about moving the memory controller into the CPU, which elimates the bottleneck that you mentioned.

HyperTransport is a general purpose CPU to I/O and CPU to CPU bus design which uses a packet-based protocol to maximize flexibility while minimizing the number of data paths required..

HyperTransport is to FSB what TCP/IP is to a null modem cable.

yes i know i was just trying to say it as simple as possible. so that the most amount of people understand it.

sics · 12-04-2006, 12:46 PM

Gigabyte for all AMD systems and Intel for all Intel based systems. For the last 5 years this is all we have used and it has worked wonders with very little repairs assosciated with the boards.

limainfinita · 12-25-2006, 10:03 AM

Ok I will buy a new omputer this month and I was planning a dual core 2 processor ( intel)
Now after read this thread I would like to know which is better
an Intel based computer or an AMD?

thanks in advance

bbalegere · 12-25-2006, 12:41 PM

I would prefer to choos NVidia Nforce motherboards.
Both Intel and AMD.
I personally prefer a AMD 64 bit machine with nForce4 SLI with a NVidia Graphics card.Preferably 7900 or 8800.
Still you might consider othersopinion about Intel processors also.
Regards
BBalegere

limainfinita · 12-25-2006, 01:43 PM

Im using an intel motherboard and is cool, but I would like to buy a new computer components like processor, motherboard, ram.

So, I would like to buy the best of all those componets to have a great computer.

I always listen that AMD is better than Intel processor, but not sure why?

Now I have doubts about Motherboard, I thought : is you have a intel processor the best option is buy an Intel Motherboard, but looks like I was wrong.