Videocard overlocking

[tcm9669]

PLz can someone tell me on how to overlock my Videocard? I have a 9200 Pro Family 128MB videocard
Anyhelp?
Thanks

[Lyte]

Hey tcm,

Just for clarity's sake... is that the Radeon® 9200SE (AGP) or Radeon® 9200
(AGP or PCI) ?

Not sure it makes a differance but in case it does I thought I'd ask... so you'd get accurate advice!

Lyte

[tcm9669]

Well here is a screenshot and see for yourself! Ignore that (Omega) thats coz I didnt install the defauly XP Drivers ( coz It had some problems ) so I installed Omega drivers! instead of the default!



Its connected to the AGP ( If you mean in what port its connected to )

[McDaddy]

omega drivers, are good for overclocking. it also depend on the motherboard that you have. you might be able to go in to the bios. and up the voltage and clock speed, also upping the system clock will overclock your entire machine, but more important that overclocking a paticular piece of hardware, is being able to sync your hardware. just upping the speed of everything is not the most effective way of getting the most preformance out of everything. by getting the processor, memory, and video card to "talk" at the same speed, they will be a lot more efficent that them all talking as fast as they can, but out of sync, out of sync, the language between them just kind of blurs and becomes a mumble, leading to a slow machine, and system crashes, but if you can get them to communicate in sync of eachother, then you will have a fast efficent machine.

if you can get me the information of your motherboard, processoe, memory, (brand, speed), what clock you system is running at.

you processor is mutiplyer of 11, and clock of 220, you have a 2.4 GHz process,
your memory latency, speed, ect. and same of your video card

there is also another program that will let you overclock whild you are running windows, but it will not save any setting and will just give you and idea of what you can set the bios to, with out running in to stability issues, i dont remember what it is off the top of my head, i will try and find out for you. also if yo can go in to your bios and run memtest, if you have it. and work on overclocking your memory and getting it in sync with you processor, beofre you do anythin with your videocard. overclocking you memory is the first prioritt, processor the second, and videocard the third.

[OulZac]

If you want to just overclock your ATI video card, you should download ATI tool, its a tool released by ATI for overclocking there video cards, its a very good tool.

[tcm9669]

Well what I want is to increase the memory size from 128 to 256! can this prog to that?

[OulZac]

no, and you cant actually do that, you can increase the memory speed, but you can not actually physical up the amount it has.

[tcm9669]

What difference will the memory speed do on my videocard?

[McDaddy]

you can not increace the amoutn of memory on your card with out buying a brand new card. by speeding up the memory, you can think of it like this. it will process the information that enters it faster, and by doing so the information in side of it will have to spend less time. by spending less time, it can process morinformation in the same amount of time.

example:
1. if i can have one person do a single task 10 times in 10 minutes. that is good

2.so i can have 2 people do the same task 20 time in 10 minutes. that is better. but i have to hire a second person

3. or i can just make person 1 do the same task faster. lets say 15 times in 10 minutes.

number 3 is what you are doing by overclocking.

speed is most everything. not so much quanity. for years, if you wanted to speed your computer up, you had to add more quanity of memory, and ect. but for the moment. we are at a point that we dont need any more quanity. so what we do is speed up what we have.



example. my old desk top only had 1 gig of memory pc3200 ddr dual. a 1.2 GHz single core amd 64 proessor, and a ati 9800 pro graphics card. (my old computer died, it took a bath and didnt like it. i think the water was to cold and sent her in to shock)

my new computer 2 gigs memory running a 667 mhz. (lot faster than pc3200). a 1.6 GHz AMD 64 with dual core. and an ATI video card. close to twice the horse power of my old desk top. My new computer is 5 times slower than my old desk top.

my old desk top was overclocked to 2.2 GHz processor. and that was not reached by just upping the mutiplyer. the stock processor voltage is around 1.5 volts. my old computer was at 3 volts. my old memory had lower latency. and overclocked.

i guess what i am trying to say, is yes the componets that you have matter a great deal, but what matters more, is knowing how to utilize them. by knowing how to properly set things up and make them work togather if far more important.

[tcm9669]

Originally Posted by McDaddy

you can not increace the amoutn of memory on your card with out buying a brand new card. by speeding up the memory, you can think of it like this. it will process the information that enters it faster, and by doing so the information in side of it will have to spend less time. by spending less time, it can process morinformation in the same amount of time.

example:
1. if i can have one person do a single task 10 times in 10 minutes. that is good

2.so i can have 2 people do the same task 20 time in 10 minutes. that is better. but i have to hire a second person

3. or i can just make person 1 do the same task faster. lets say 15 times in 10 minutes.

number 3 is what you are doing by overclocking.

speed is most everything. not so much quanity. for years, if you wanted to speed your computer up, you had to add more quanity of memory, and ect. but for the moment. we are at a point that we dont need any more quanity. so what we do is speed up what we have.



example. my old desk top only had 1 gig of memory pc3200 ddr dual. a 1.2 GHz single core amd 64 proessor, and a ati 9800 pro graphics card. (my old computer died, it took a bath and didnt like it. i think the water was to cold and sent her in to shock)

my new computer 2 gigs memory running a 667 mhz. (lot faster than pc3200). a 1.6 GHz AMD 64 with dual core. and an ATI video card. close to twice the horse power of my old desk top. My new computer is 5 times slower than my old desk top.

my old desk top was overclocked to 2.2 GHz processor. and that was not reached by just upping the mutiplyer. the stock processor voltage is around 1.5 volts. my old computer was at 3 volts. my old memory had lower latency. and overclocked.

i guess what i am trying to say, is yes the componets that you have matter a great deal, but what matters more, is knowing how to utilize them. by knowing how to properly set things up and make them work togather if far more important.

10x for your detailed post!
and yeah 10x too to that person that gave me the prog! I will use it
but beside the memory it has the function to increase the 'core' what is that? what will happen if i make it more?

10x

[OulZac]

the 'core' is the gpu (wich is the cpu of the graphics card) and this is to change the speed of it.

[McDaddy]

overclocking the core is a "good thing" just be verry careful. that is how you fry the cards. monitor tou temperature extreemly closly, you will probley not be able to overclock a whole lot on just standard cooling. a better graphics card cooler, or liquid cooling will let you push your card further. just remember overclocking is the easyest and best way to fry hardware, but if you konw what you are doing, and do it correctly, it can make big preformance increaces, and save you money.

the best advice i can give you, is do it extreemly slowly. up the speed jsut a little, then stop for a while. run some graphic intensive games, and programs through your video card, to (burn it in), after several hours of burning in, ( i like to burn things in for a full day or so), up the clock just a little more and start the burning all over. continue until the card becomes unstable, then back off the clock just a little, and let it burn in for several days, and then try again, keep going until the card beomces unstable. then back it back down just a little. eventually you will come to a point where you will no longer be able to up the speed wiht out the card becomming unstable. then you are at the max speed that card can handle with the amount of cooling that you have provided for the card. also rmemeber that just because the card becomes unstable does not mean that is all the card can handle. at that point you need to decide how hard you are pushing the card, and what the voltage settings are. if you can go in to the bios. and increace the voltage to the card just a little and the process of upping the clock and burning in begains again. to properly overclock somthing takes a lot of patience and time. but it is fairly safe if you go extreemly slow and take your time. any big increaces will have a much higher risk of frying the card.

last thing. keep all your notes written down on a piece of paper. so if your, and when your system crashes, yo have your notes to refer to to go back to your last known good settings. if your system never becomes unstable, then you are not "pushing" your hardware.

[tcm9669]

Thanks for your replies!!!