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Old 11-25-2005, 11:48 AM   #1
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J2ME or Symbian

Any mobile application developers out here?

I want to get familiar with J2ME or Symbian C++.

Symbian C++ was really tough, as I had to learn it all by myself.

I was wondering if J2ME is a bit easy to learn since I'm already well versed with Java. Is there bright future for J2ME?
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Old 11-25-2005, 12:15 PM   #2
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If you can code in Java, you can code in J2ME.
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Old 11-25-2005, 12:21 PM   #3
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Yeah, that is fine but I was wondering if it is useful to learn J2ME.

Are there any bright career prospects in learning J2ME?
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Old 11-25-2005, 04:40 PM   #4
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That's a tough question. I believe that it would depend upon the industry where you live.

Where I live, junior software developers have a really difficult time finding jobs, but senior developers are in demand.

Java is very popular around here -- perhaps because we have an enormous Sun Microsystems campus just North of here.

If I were you, I would find out what jobs openings exist in your area and focus on the skills that employers are looking for.

Of course, this is the Internet age! You can live in Tibet and work in Chicago. :lol:
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Old 11-25-2005, 11:31 PM   #5
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Yeah very true Will, but its like here we get the outsourced projects, so the nature of the market depends on the market in US and other countries.

Symbian C++ has good share of jobs here, but I have no idea about J2ME based work. Symbian is very tough to program though
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Old 11-25-2005, 11:45 PM   #6
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http://fb2.hu/x10/Articles/JumpingIntoJ2ME.html
Check this out nice details about how to start J2ME Programming.
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:24 PM   #7
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Hi, I started my preparation on J2ME and currently am following two books for it. They are Manning-Java2 Micro Edition and Apress Wireless Java Developing with J2ME, 2nd Edition.

I personally liked Apress title, and I am refering to the other book at times.

Which IDE are you using for J2ME?
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:34 PM   #8
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Symbian will take over the market very soon. It's like Windows for Desktop PCs...

J2ME can be used to program on Symbian OS too!

Refer to microjava.com for more information about J2ME and you can visit newlc.com for Symbian C++ information and articles.
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:12 AM   #9
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newlc is very good for symbian C++, i just had a look.
Anyway for those who need to know how to start with j2me, request over here i would be happy to provide you a small intro tutorial to J2ME and how to begin, so that you can carry on from there.
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:34 AM   #10
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If you can code in Java, you can code in J2ME.
So J2ME is just a modification of Java then I assume?

Is it easier or harder?
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:25 AM   #11
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j2me is just a different set of API's, apart from a few common API's like java.io, java.lang etc...

It's easy to write J2me code but a bit complicated procedure unless you use an IDE like EclipseME.

You need to understand the lifecycle of a MIDlet which makes the coding a bit easier. Its just like any applet or servlet. How actually the MIDLet works is all you need to know to get a good start with the API, other than that its all Java.
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Old 11-27-2005, 05:24 AM   #12
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hyyp://www.wirelessdevnet.com/channels/java/

Check out this link for additional J2ME information. Apart from programming information, it has lots of other articles which might be of interest.
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Old 11-28-2005, 05:40 PM   #13
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hmm confusing stuff... no wonder I just stick with PHP

Java always seemed so much more confusing..
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Old 11-29-2005, 01:38 AM   #14
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Refer to "thinking in java" for the detail explanation on OOPs concepts and you would not leave Java since then. The power of Object orientation is that ,complex projects are made easy when compared to that in procedural systems.
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:34 PM   #15
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I just had lunch with a friend whose company is developing mobile applications.

He stated that J2EE was pretty unstable -- which every BlackBerry owner knows, but that Symbian was even more unstable.

They are developing mobile applications using Smalltalk.
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Wow! Thanks for the excellent information Will, it's very helpful.

But Smalltalk is not as popular as the other two, I think!
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:31 PM   #17
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I believe that you are correct.

Another bit of insight from Tom is that Symbian is more popular in Europe than in the United States.

In the U.S., we don't see it much. We're a Java nation. :lol:
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:30 AM   #18
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I feel Symbian is growing popular because we can write apps in C++ which are very fast and designed to the application, no overhead of a runtime. the OS can execute the machine code directly making it atleast 3 times faster than a J2ME appl. Have no idea about SmallTAlk or how it works
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